Monday, May 3, 2010

JEE goof-up leaves IIT aspirants in a tizzy

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NEW DELHI/MUMBAI: It was a goof-up alright: while some students sweated through their IIT-JEE examination because the order of subjects on the question paper didn’t match the sequence on the answer sheet, others cracked the seeming teaser by figuring out that there was an obvious printer’s devil.

While the question paper had the first 28 questions from physics, followed by an equal number of questions from chemistry and maths, the ORS sheet (objective response sheet) had a different sequence of subjects.

‘‘I thought IITs were testing us on presence of mind. So I started marking the physics questions under the subject head ‘Physics’ on the ORS sheet,’’ said Vaibhav Bhise, who took the entrance test at IIT-Powai.

What complicated matters was that every subject had precisely 28 questions. As students across the country complained about the sequence of subjects not matching, the IIT authorities woke up to the gaffe and asked every exam centre to advise students to ignore the subject heads on the ORS sheets and go by the question numbers.

The JEE released an official statement saying there was a minor error in the order of printing of the subject headings.

Authorities sent out a clarification in quick time, but with the exam being conducted across 1,026 centres, it came in at different stages during the exam.

Piyush Kumar Sharma, a Delhi student, said, ‘‘In place of mathematics, physics was mentioned on answer sheet. But the questions were in the right serial order. The invigilators told us to ignore the subject headings and mark the answers in the ORS according to the question umbers in the paper.’’

‘‘In my centre, the invigilator first asked us to mark the answer according to the headings on the ORS sheet.But after an hour, the official communication from the IITs was read out, which was contrary to what the supervisor had instructed,’’ said Siddhant Deshpande, who took the exam in Navi Mumbai.

In one of the 10 codes of the Hindi version of Paper 1, a question was not printed. But according to JEE Madras, steps would be taken to make sure that the candidates’ score does not suffer

IIT directors meet in Kanpur to plug JEE holes





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Express news service

Posted: Apr 27, 2010 at 0255 hrs IST


Kanpur Days before the Joint Admission Board (JAB) meeting scheduled at New Delhi, the IIT directors met at IIT-Kanpur to discuss some important changes proposed for the IIT-Joint Entrance Exam (IIT-JEE).
During the meeting on Sunday, they chalked out their plans for the PAN IIT summit to be held at Greater Noida on October 29 and also discussed the issue of promotion of employees as per the Sixth Pay Commission.

The IIT-JEE 2010 paper held on April 11 carried several printing errors. Plus, several questions were not printed in the Hindi version of the exam. During the meeting, the IIT directors discussed a better and improved format of IIT-JEE from 2011.

IIT-K Director Sanjay Govind Dhande said: “Our aim is to ensure that none of the students suffer due to a printing error. Therefore, they have framed a better format for IIT-JEE.”

Without revealing the proposed changes, Dhande said: “It is a highly confidential issue, and if the changes recommended by us are approved we might see a change in the format of IIT-JEE from 2011.” The PAN IIT Summit 2010, to be attended by over 3,000 former IIT students, will be held at Greater Noida on October 29.

IIT JEE 1997 paper leaked story..........

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Entrance by any means

Sharad Gupta

A private coaching institute in Lucknow secretly called a select group of its students on the evening of May 2, barely 12 hours before the Joint Entrance Examination (JEE) for admission into the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), for `valuable suggestions'. Nearly 100 students out of the total 700 reached and were told that the tips should be learnt by rote. The next day, much to the excitement of the students, 70 per cent of the physics and chemistry questions appeared in the examination papers.

The father of an examinee told IIT authorities in New Delhi over the telephone about the leak but he was rebuffed. ``Such doubts are normal and are expressed every year by parents whose wards have not done well in their examinations,'' said an IIT official.

The same procedure was adopted for the mathematics paper the next day and this time too the coaching institute was bang on target. Most of the questions figured in the actual paper, some with minor change of figures.

But what made IIT authorities realise that the question papers had been leaked to some students was a fax from an unidentified examinee in Lucknow to the Chairman, IIT-JEE in New Delhi, at least an hour before the mathematics exam on May 4.

In what was a laudable effort to salvage their credibility, the IIT authorities cancelled the examination and decided to conduct fresh tests in July. ``For us, saving our reputation as the premier institute of technology in the country was more important than causing discomfiture to thousands of students,'' said a professor of IIT Kanpur.

Some of the private coaching institutes in Lucknow reportedly also put out `valuable suggestions' to their students on the eve of the two-day Roorkee Engineering College entrance test on May 7. Though giving `finer tips' to students in coaching institutes before examinations is a routine practice, that the suggestions offered in the institute appeared in the IIT entrance question papers made students suspicious.

It was the leak of all three papers -- mathematics, physics and chemistry -- that led to the cancellation of JEE for the first time. Those aspiring for an engineering seat in Roorkee feared that their entrance test might meet the same fate as IIT-JEE.

But the IIT authorities in Kanpur were taken by surprise. ``It may have been leaked from Patna and most probably, one of the many centre superintendents might have done it,'' observed a senior professor at IIT Kanpur. For the first time in its history, the academic calendar of IIT will have to be adjusted as fresh examinations are likely to be held at least two months later.

Though rumours of the disclosure of papers of the Roorkee Engineering College entrance test scheduled for May 8 and 9 too kept circulating among students in Lucknow, the authorities refused to cancel their test for want of concrete evidence.

The two incidents have put a question mark not only on the credibility and fairness of entrance examinations to various engineering and medical colleges in the country, but also on the role of mushrooming coaching institutes, ready to go to any extent to make a fast buck.

In fact, this is not the first incident of leakage of question papers of medical or engineering entrance examinations in Uttar Pradesh. There have been stories of paper leakage of Combined Pre-Medical Tests (CPMT) conducted by a State university for admission to seven medical colleges in Uttar Pradesh almost every year for sometime.

The CPMT had to be cancelled and reconducted in 1991 after a similar incident, leading to a six-month delay in the academic calendar of all State medical colleges and hence a zero session too. An inquiry instituted by the State Government into paper leakage failed to point the loopholes in the system though the role of a chain of coaching institutes had come under a cloud then too.

Some other students had devised another method of getting admission to the Jhansi Medical College, by forging admission letters last year. Though 44 students were expelled from the college after the fraud was detected, the Government inquiry has failed to find the real culprits.

The paper leak this year has obviously put extra burden not only on the IIT authorities but on students too, especially on those who had done well.

``All the enthusiasm to become an engineer is gone. I have known rigging of elections but rigging of examinations is certainly a deplorable phenomenon,'' says Ashish Bhattacharya, a student.

Students feel that the competition among coaching institutes is responsible for the leakage. ``The students will obviously join the coaching institute which can ensure their selection, irrespective of the methods adopted by it,'' says Saurabh Gupta, an engineering student.How it works

The IIT-JEE papers are prepared by a group of IIT professors before being sent for printing to a trusted printing press. IITs have no supervision over printing of question papers. The printed papers are despatched to various IITs accompanied by junior faculty members or other responsible officers of the institute conducting the test.According to an IIT professor, the papers are then despatched to 300-odd examination centres by the IITs having jurisdiction over these centres barely 24 hours before the test.

But these are not accompanied by a faculty member, a practice strictly followed during CPMT examinations after the 1991 paper leak.Thus the possible point of leakage of question papers is either the printing press or the senior staff at any of the 300-odd examination centres. The coaching institutes obviously target such vulnerable spots since the stakes are very high and so is the money involved in it.``Though utmost care is taken in selecting the printing press and examination centres, no one can vouch for the integrity of hundreds of individuals engaged in conducting the examinations,'' says a former IIT director.With a CBI inquiry already in progress , he hoped that faults in the system would be located and corrected. The preliminary CBI probe has indicated that the Lucknow coaching institute may have procured papers from either Patna or New Delhi.The economics of coaching

1.The coaching institutes charge students Rs 5,000 per question paper, making approximately between Rs 12,000 and 5,000 per student for Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics. An institute with an enrolment of 500-700 students earns between Rs 50 lakh and Rs 1 crore every year.

2. Some institutes guarantee selection of students in engineering or medical colleges in UP, at a higher fee ofRs 50,000. If not selected they return double the amount.

3. It is not usually an expensive deal for coaching institutes to spend between Rs 5-20 lakh to get the `real' question papers. The success enhances the reputation of the institute and students flock in greater number bringing more money.

4. There are certain coaching institutes in Lucknow, Allahabad and Varanasi which have air-conditioned class rooms fitted with microphones. Teachers of such institutes too have reportedly made a fortune in a very short span of time, usually by escaping the notice of Income Tax officials.

5. The competition among coaching institutes can be gauged from the fact that there are at least five institutes with identical names, prefixed with `real' or `new' to the names.

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Cutoffs for IIT JEE 2010

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March 26, 2010, 12:00 am

Here are the expected cutoff\'s for IIT JEE 2010. Team LakshyaIIT has collected data from a large number of students who gave JEE this year and then feedback of all these students have been accumulated to predict rank.
Marks Predicted Rank
above 425..... top 10
310-425.......... 10-500
285-310.......... 500-1000
268-285.......... 1000-1500
254-268.......... 1500-2000
244-254.......... 2000-2500
235-244.......... 2500-3000
229-235.......... 3000-3500
220-229.......... 3500-4000
215-220.......... 4000-4500
215-209.......... 4500-5000
209-205.......... 5000-5500
205-200.......... 5500-6000
200-195.......... 6000-6500
195-192.......... 6500-7000
192-190.......... 7000-7500
190-185.......... 7500-8000
185-182.......... 8000-8500
182-180.......... 8500-9000
180-178.......... 9000-10000
IIT JEE 2010:Expected cutoffs

IIT JEE in Hindi vs English

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The performance of the aspirants that who had appeared for the IIT JEE Exam in Hindi for the past three years is worse when compared with the Aspirants who wrote the exam in English. This year the students performance in IIT JEE Hindi version will be much worse than that of the previous years as there are many errors in that. Here is some data regarding the performances of the IIT JEE Aspirants for the past two years 2008 and 2009. From The Telegraph Magazine

Here are the Past Records :

Sunday, May 2, 2010

Responses to Professor Yashpal. Should Coaching Institutes Be Closed? Part II

I read the following article by Professor Yashpal. While I respect him as a scientist, I beg to differ from him on some points. The article is pasted after my points of difference.

1. Where is the syllabus tight and big? The IIT JEE syllabus is a subset of CBSE. It is a different matter that in most schools they just skim the surface instead of giving a scientific understanding of the concepts. (All the mathematics required to study IIT JEE physics is well within the syllabus of CBSE)

2. How many constants does a child come across during entire training of physics? Moreover in every IIT JEE exams all the constants are provided. As far as I understand, there won't be more than 12 odd constants , and it is not mandatory to memorize them. And coaching class don't simply program the children for memorizing these constants... they do something much more than that. They teach physics the way it is supposed to be taught. (Atleast I can say that about myself and most of my peers)

3. Doing well in IIT JEE is not just about making fast calculations. It is also about making correct equations and thinking about what equations would be useful. This requires IQ and proper understanding of physics.

4. Professors might have taken full night to solve an entrance paper, but the very same professors, when they had cleared IIT JEE they won't have taken as much time. Over a period of time the ability to solve certain types of problems can decline. That's a bogus logic. I am a professor of physics for IIT JEE , I can solve IIT JEE type problems quickly but perhaps if you give me some navier stokes equation or something , I might take an entire night, though I have studied it during my B.Tech (While a Fluid mechanics prof. may do it immediately). Just because a teacher is slow, nowhere warrants that the students also need to be slow.

5. The children do get as much time as they want to solve a problem during their practice sessions. (They are given take home assignments), Of course you can't give infinite time for a test however if you are suggesting a subjective type paper (as was in my times, 1995), I am game for it. But please understand the very student who is solving problems quickly in exams is able to do so because he has done so many problems taking his own time. (This experience makes the problems strike quickly).

6. Coaching institutes do not diminish bright students, they enhance them. Affordability of coaching is another matter altogether. It would be affordable if the government itself runs some good quality coaching institutes. The solution is not to close down the coaching institutes , rather the solution would be to either close down or upgrade the standards of education in formal schools. ( Every government leader should be willing to educate his kids in government institutions). For that matter the fee in formal schools is no less. An year of formal schooling in Delhi /NCR may cost as much as 1 lac rupees an year. So where is the air in that argument against coaching alone?

7. There is no tunnel vision anywhere. Only your thinking makes it so. IITians today are also as creative as ever. No basis has been provided in your allegation of "tunnel vision", has any survey been done? Or just a big shot saying something become an evidence in and of itself.
Something doesn't become truth just because a lobby of people shouts it aloud. No matter how big the lobby. It is quite possible that one person may be speaking the truth even if hundred people are saying otherwise. and vice versa is also possible.

8. Of course the Engineering students have to be taught Physics Chemistry and Mathematics. Atleast they should have a priority over the other subjects. Would you rather teach them History and Civics? They are never barred from studying literature and of course many IITians are avid readers and some of them authors too. Why should they not be taught Physics Chemistry and Mathematics? And Already many IITs do offer electives in humanities.









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They Train Children Like Animals’


There seems to be some kind of deliberate or unintentional or accidental collusion between teaching and coaching. There is a special joy in making the syllabus as tight and big as possible. While examining the child — for example, for engineering — it is assumed that he knows everything, remembers everything — all the constants, all the variables. And he is expected to do it all very quickly.

If all that the coaching classes do is programme the mind to remember all these numbers, why have such a system? There is no need to cram the mind with irrelevant information when it is easily available. I would go so far as to say that students should be given all the constants on a sheet of paper. Special computers can have all those values — gravitational constant, Planck constant, time constant, etc.

Sometimes there are arithmetic calculations that need a lot of time. Coaching classes give tips on how to solve them fast. But why can’t the child be given a simple calculator for that? Even I have to think for half an hour for some of the questions. This has been tried with some IIT professors also, and they have taken a full night to solve the entrance paper.

The teaching shops especially train students to improve their speed; they give the children the same kinds of exercises over and over again so that they learn to do them fast. But I don’t see any logic in limiting the examination to a specified number of hours. What is the harm in giving the paper and asking the child to take as much time as needed to solve it? This will encourage the habit of thinking.

Coaching classes force you to have a tunnel vision. They create such pressure of time that the mind stops thinking creatively. They train children like animals to have a prescribed set of qualities and knowledge. Whereas, basically, you should try to judge whether the child has learnt how to think differently.

Even assessment is a difficult thing to design. If somebody does something special, is able to go off tangent and come up with something totally unexpected, then instead of rejecting it outright as incorrect, our evaluation system should be able to appreciate its uniqueness and reward the child accordingly. Coaching classes diminish the creative potential. They do not allow meandering and wandering in different directions for knowledge. Those who undergo a lot of coaching may get a lot of marks, but they come off worse as individuals.

Instead of increasing the capacity of institutes such as IITs and IIMs, a filtration system has been devised. There are different sets of holes and coaching institutes are the sieves that teach children how to fall through those holes.

It is not the fault of just the coaching institutes. Teaching institutes themselves want students who have a tunnel vision, who can walk like animals on a ledge. And coaching institutes provide them those. That is why courses have also been developed with a tunnel vision — engineering students study only physics, chemistry and maths. Why not literature too?
Then there is the question of stress. It is definitely established that a lot of stress on young minds for a long time permanently damages them. What we do is take some wonderfully bright people who work really hard, and through rigorous coaching, diminish them. Even those who are successful are diminished. Those who are unsuccessful are unhappy. Something needs to be done on that.

Coaching institutes charge lakhs. They take bright people, diminish them and promote discrimination because there might be many bright students who can’t afford the amounts demanded by these institutes. You are promoting a process of selection that rewards only those who can afford a certain kind of education. It has become almost fashionable to join coaching institutes. Question papers are also designed in such a way that you have to learn to pass through certain tunnels which only coaching institutes can teach you how to. And all this is being done at the cost of real creativity.

Should Coaching Institutes Be Closed?

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‘Coaching Will Continue To Increase’


HRD minister Kapil Sibal’s call to curb coaching institutes finds support in some educationists. But the Rs 30,377-crore industry stands its ground the minister for human resource development wishes to rein in coaching institutes, or teaching shops, as he calls them. But his stand is totally unjustified because coaching emerges from the need to excel relative to others and it will continue to increase for all classes and for entrance examinations.

This phenomenon is not unique to India. Coaching is as prevalent in the US and Europe for all classes beginning with early childhood. There is a huge tuition market for SAT-1, SAT-2 (subject achievement tests, prevalent in the US) and the Test of English as a Foreign Language or TOEFL all over the world.

As for all the brouhaha over coaching institutes taking the focus of students preparing for competitive examinations away from senior secondary board examinations, it is important to note that the maximum money spent on coaching in India is for supplementing regular school education, and not for competitive examinations. Even in the best schools, the board toppers take tuitions. Needless to say, school teachers are more concerned about tuitions than teaching in the school.

D.K. GOEL, chairman and chief mentor, FIITJEE
D.K. GOEL, chairman and chief mentor, FIITJEE
Now let us analyse the fundamental positioning of IITs. What have they been achieving, or are purported to be achieving? They have an admission process to select the brightest — bright from the point of view of having the potential to be excellent technocrats. IIT graduates are supposed to create a higher level of productivity in the industry and, thus, contribute to the process of nation-building.

They have been excelling abroad. Their performance has created a lot of interest in India in the minds of those sitting in the World Bank, the International Finance Corporation and various foreign institutional investors, resulting in huge investments in India.

Yet, the number of problems IITs face calls for a serious review of the whole system. There is a severe shortage of teaching staff. They are not able to attract the right talent and there is no system for training the faculty. The teachers are, more often than not, unable to earn as well as their students and feel frustrated. They are right — they deserve better salaries. The government is doing nothing to increase the grants to IITs and the result is they figure nowhere in world rankings. Unlike leading colleges and universities abroad, IIT faculty get few opportunities to do industry-relevant research and consultancy work.

Clearly, IIT graduates have been doing better than the institutes themselves at a global level. The excellence of IITs is not a mark of success of the government or the IIT system, but an expression of Indian talent. The government has done little to enable students from backward areas and villages to have good education so that they too can compete for IITs.

The move to give more weightage to board examinations — up to 80 per cent as per some reports — will restrict students from rural and backward areas. Patterns and, therefore, scoring potential, varies across different boards. Bihar, Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh are some of the boards where scoring 80 per cent-plus is much more difficult than in CBSE. Increasing the weightage for board examinations may lead to boards diluting their papers to let more students score above 80 per cent or whatever is the yardstick set by the IIT council.

The fact is that the boards test something different from what IIT-JEE stands to test. Giving weightage to board marks will defeat the purpose that IIT-JEE wishes to achieve.

Birla Institute of Technology (Bits), Pilani, has moved to an entrance test-based admission process to take the focus away from board examinations. The obvious reason is that there is a huge discrepancy in the marks secured by students from different states, and also the fact that on marks criterion alone, bright students from villages can never make it to Bits Pilani. Even in Delhi College of Engineering, where students come mostly from CBSE schools of Delhi, an entrance test has been introduced as scoring well in CBSE is considered different from having an aptitude for engineering.
(This story was published in Businessworld Issue Dated 09-11-2009)